Debbie brings Paula to talm about discuss clients, career, and aging. “What’s good about it is that it doesn’t matter that you’re not growing because you’re in your fifties. And the thing about your fifties is you have power. And the reason you have power in your fifties is all your clients are your age. So all those people you grew up with, they’re in their fifties too and they’ve got power, so they can actually give you some decent work.”